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Brandon
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« on: March 04, 2010, 01:17:10 am »

i foudn this article online......

It is being reported that not only will there be a new Superman film, but it will be titled Superman Unleashed. A source for Slashfilm has apparently provided the site's staff with a password to a secret site containing critical insider info on the (as far as we know) upcoming Superman Returns sequel. (Uh, isn't that illegal or something?)

Anyway, the site, while not revealing anything specific about the film, contained the title and this abstract mission statement:

“Ramping up the action of its esteemed predecessor, the sequel to ‘Superman Returns’ promises to raise the stakes and take the audience to heights of action that no other superhero movie can achieve.”

"Ramping up that action!" Ya-yess! They just may have the right idea this time around. While it is billed as a "sequel" to Superman Returns, it is obviously still unclear who, if anyone, will remain from the 2006 film. Would an all-around reboot of the franchise be the next step as things progress? Personally, after such a short period of time since the last film, I would only be in favor of a reboot if there was absolutely nothing salvageable from the previous effort. (Ex: Ang Lee's Hulk.)

In the case of Superman Returns, I would have to say that the film was "okay." It didn't blow me away, but I do believe that there was something that could be salvaged. I don't blame Brandon Routh (his performance was adequate), nor do I blame Bryan Singer (he did what he could and the film looked good.) It was just a screenplay that tried too hard to reinvent the Superman story for today's sensibilities, that it got too caught up in the drama of "single mom Lois" and Cyclops...err...James Marsden as "the other guy." They forgot that it wasn't some Hugh Grant romcom and was actually supposed to be a frigging Superman movie.

By the time we got to the conflict, the "kryptonite island" or whatever it was, did not pay off at all. (And that is not to say that all the classic Christopher Reeve outings from the 80's were winners, either. I mean, in Superman III, Richard Pryor literally gets turned into a robot! Then there was "Nuclear Man" from Superman IV, who looked like the illegitimate child of Ivan Drago and Anni-Frid from ABBA. Really?)

My suggestion: Keep the same team. Singer in the director's chair and Routh in the blue tights. Stick to your guns with that promise of action. Cut back on the lovesick puppy angle that Clark Kent has become. Most of all -- Give us a signature villain other than Lex Luthor! I think that Brainiac is long due for a big screen debut. It would give the film a nice atmosphere of action mixed with technology. They could even tie him into Supes' origin story (where Brainiac was the super-computer responsible for the demise of his home planet of Krypton), thus making the conflict a highly personal one for the Man of Steel. Great action and great drama = WIN.





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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2010, 01:21:51 am »

The likelihood of a new Superman movie has gone up tremendously. The bad news: It seems that the soonest possible time that we will see it, is 2012 (When people will live in giant domes in the sky and travel in flying cars on the way to a day of work at Spacely's Space Sprockets.)

How did this turn of events come about? Well, it's a story filled with boring legal stuff that doesn't make for a good article. The gist of it is as follows: A bit of legal drama stirred up surrounding a recent lawsuit from the heirs of Superman creator co-creator, Jerry Siegel. The lawsuit was brought about by Joanne Siegel (his widow) and Laura Siegel Larson (his daughter) for damages from an alleged "sweetheart deal" of licensing fees paid by Warner Bros. to DC Comics (a partner of WB) which was allegedly below fair market value, thus depriving them of their percentage as co-owners of the legal rights. The court did not find things in their favor and determined that the fees were indeed within fair market value (and maintained the same for the deal between Warner and DC on the Smallville TV show.) HOWEVER --- acting per the agreement to avoid legitimizing the damages that the Siegels claim to have incurred, the court also ruled that Warner must commence filming on a new Superman film by 2011. So there you have it, the law has officially mandated a Superman sequel!

In that spirit, Alan Horn (Head of Warner Bros.) testified during the trial about the current state of the proposed film:

"We had hopes to keep the [Superman] character alive and to once again reinvent Superman. We are — our hope is to develop a Superman property and to try again. What hurt us is that the reviews and so on for the Superman movie . . . did not get the kind of critical acclaim that Batman got, and we have other issues with Superman that concern us.” 1

Given the state of the film that Horn described, 2012 is soonest possible time the film could be released. (Not taking into account casting drama, script issues, and overall bad luck during production.)

It seems that Superman really is up in the air (no pun intended -- well, maybe.) The initial hype earlier this year, was that the new film (reportedly titled Superman Unleashed) would indeed be a sequel that promised much more action. There were hints scattered around since then, that Brandon Routh (star of 2006's critically brutalized Superman Returns) was NOT completely out of the picture, despite the "failure" of the reboot in which he starred. With the recent revelation that Routh's contract has expired, we're not even sure about what we once thought we knew.

Personally, I blame the blandness of Superman Returns on the script itself. As the Man of Steel, Routh was actually pretty decent (perhaps we'll go with "passable"), and I think that given the right environment, he could really come into his own. Considering that "The Law" has now put significant pressure on Warner to churn this sequel out in the next three years, there is not enough time to start from the beginning. If you want to know what kind of a disaster can occur from rebooting too soon, I give you three words: Punisher War Zone. Give it another go with Routh, dammit! Get a decent script, packed with the action you promised, get Brainiac as the villain, and salvage this franchise, already!

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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2010, 01:24:55 am »

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/tealogger/news/?a=8472

there is more information
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2010, 01:32:13 am »

o.o here is some good news

CHRIS NOLAN of dark knight fame is to take on role as a director or something in the new superman movie

http://filmonic.com/christopher-nolan-overseeing-superman-installment-2010
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« Reply #4 on: March 04, 2010, 08:53:30 am »

First, Punisher War Zone was not a reboot, it simply didn't deal with the events of the first movie and also starred a different actor as the Punisher.

I'm not sure of the validity of all this. Some of this I have heard here and there but other parts of it... I don't know, it sounds like a fanboy rumor to me. I doubt they'll reboot Superman as much as I wish they would. Brandon Roth is suppose to pop up in Green Lantern, that rumor is gaining some massive strength!

But with what Marvel/ Parmount has done with Spider-Man may set a new trend for comic films that have become to wain and loose it's fanbase. I think the success of Green Lantern will determine things to come from DC live action films... Perhaps DC has found it's niche with animation once again!
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« Reply #5 on: March 04, 2010, 01:05:18 pm »

well it seems to be legit to me, i am hoping it is because of the sheer fact that while returns sucked, if they do this  the way the article states and include the brain interactive construct it would make for a great movie
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